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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 18:50
Not wonderful for a local derby.
He was checking on the red 5 shoulder barge - before giving him a card and reversing the penalty.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by The Tykester The Tykester wrote:

The game at Donny, shown on Sky, was a great advert for the Championship - a local derby with 7 tries!
How was the crowd?


Just over 2000, biggest crowd of the season fkr a knight's game
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Not wonderful for a local derby.
He was checking on the red 5 shoulder barge - before giving him a card and reversing the penalty.
 

Unfortunately what the referee wanted to check was not what the camera editors wanted to show!  It was obvious what the referee was asking for but they kept cutting out before they got to the incident, hence the long delay.  Then they missed something that was happening on the floor which provoked Tyrell's intervention.
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It was a poor decision by Josh, whistle gone, cost us one if not two points.
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It is painful for the supporters at the ground when there is a Video Referee referral with no big screen.  I grab my phone but then time delay is a bit of a pain as well.
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Pirates 12-0 up at half time according to twitter
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CP 15 LS 0 on 67mins

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Crowd at the Mennaye is 2963!
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Pirates up from 6th to 3rd - a great day for them, esp with that crowd!
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Pirates up from 6th to 3rd - a great day for them, esp with that crowd!


Geddon!!

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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

The blaming of sir is all to easy when our teams lose, but sir doesn't drop the ball, knock it on, kick it long/short, make the wrong decision, go left instead of right, go for the try line instead of passing, trying to make the off load etc. etc.

Sir is all too often the scape goat for poor play, let us remember No Sir, No Game.

Very true, I endorse these comments entirely, particularly as I refereed for many seasons and know first hand how well and badly it can go. However, just as players have good and bad games, so do referees. The criticisms of the officiating at Vallis Way on Saturday are well founded and certainly not a case of sour grapes since they come almost exclusively from supporters of the winning team. This was not a bad referee, just a referee having a bad day.
 

having moved onto a decent 1985 port I reject this although I probably should retire to the calvados.  The game at Vallis Way was a cracking intense arm wrest IMo and the officials did ok. The side I follow lost but I'm not whinging does anyone think Ealing should have won that game 5-0 or Jersey won  - I never suggested that? Ealing have a great squad but will never win this league unless they show a bit more ambition - change your back line and make a contest - please. 

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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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This chart seems to indicate that Ealing Trailfinders have scored 14 Tries from the wing against only 6 by Jersey Reds. 

31 Tries by the Ealing Trailfinders back line against 26 by Jersey Reds.

To Quote Corporalcarrot  ........ "Ealing have a great squad but will never win this league unless they show a bit more ambition - change your back line and make a contest - please". 

I agree that Ealing could be more adventurous but they have learnt some harsh lessons in the Championship and have gradually changed their game to be seriously pragmatic and strike the compromise between adventure and winning games.






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Shows how Jersey have changed, in the “old days” 40 tries would be more like backs 10 forwards 30! With 50% of the backs tries being at the back of the maul

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I think that the venerable CC was correct in noticing a lack of inventiveness and going wide on the day when Ealing played Jersey. I was there and thought that Ealing was quite conservative as well. However, I think that that decision was intentional and part of the Ealing gameplan for Jersey - overall a good piece of coaching. The stats would seem to bear out that the predominance of forward play on the day was more of an anomaly than an overall trend.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:


I think that the venerable CC was correct in noticing a lack of inventiveness and going wide on the day when Ealing played Jersey. I was there and thought that Ealing was quite conservative as well. However, I think that that decision was intentional and part of the Ealing gameplan for Jersey - overall a good piece of coaching. The stats would seem to bear out that the predominance of forward play on the day was more of an anomaly than an overall trend.

I would tend to agree with this assessment Gerg_861. Ealing showed in the Cup game a week earlier that their forwards had the edge over Jersey up front, especially in the 2nd half and at the same time got very little change when they moved the ball out wide. Therefore, common sense would dictate that they keep the ball tight in the league fixture, which is exactly what they did do to very good effect.
A very tight game with not a huge amount between the teams, but from what I was listening to, I would say that ET undoubtedly deserved their win on the day.
Strangely, w season or two ago we would be talking about how sides moved the ball away from the breakdown and set piece against Jersey ... funny old game isn't it?
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

I think that the venerable CC was correct in noticing a lack of inventiveness and going wide on the day when Ealing played Jersey. I was there and thought that Ealing was quite conservative as well. However, I think that that decision was intentional and part of the Ealing gameplan for Jersey - overall a good piece of coaching. The stats would seem to bear out that the predominance of forward play on the day was more of an anomaly than an overall trend.

I was also there !. I honestly believe we would have scored several more Try`s if the Jersey Reds had not given away so many penalties in the RED zone / inside their 22. Their plan was to spoil ball at every opportunity ( which I accept part of every gameplan ) but the Jersey Reds took it onto another level and yes it did cost them yellow cards and ultimately cost them the game in my opinion. 

The `spoiling` of good ball by Aaron Penberthy with a one handed knock on ( downwards motion ) which would have been a certain try for our wing James Cordy Redden was cynical and deserved more than a knock on . It deserved a minimal yellow but could have been given as a RED for deliberately knocking on to stop the certain try. 

The officials had a bad day ! I have not seen officiating so bad ever in the Championship. On my marking system they got  #* $~+%Censored
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:


I was also there !. I honestly believe we would have scored several more Try`s if the Jersey Reds had not given away so many penalties in the RED zone / inside their 22. Their plan was to spoil ball at every opportunity ( which I accept part of every gameplan ) but the Jersey Reds took it onto another level and yes it did cost them yellow cards and ultimately cost them the game in my opinion. 

The `spoiling` of good ball by Aaron Penberthy with a one handed knock on ( downwards motion ) which would have been a certain try for our wing James Cordy Redden was cynical and deserved more than a knock on . It deserved a minimal yellow but could have been given as a RED for deliberately knocking on to stop the certain try. 

The officials had a bad day ! I have not seen officiating so bad ever in the Championship. On my marking system they got  #* $~+%Censored


Gosh No7, 11 days on you're still quite worked up about this game, aren't you? Hope it (your team did win remember) didn't spoil your Christmas.

If you check the laws, you'll see there's no provision for red-carding players for the offence you described, which by the way didn't match how I saw it - a player making a genuine attempt to intercept the pass, and still Red cover outside (albeit 1 player against 2) meaning the try was not a certainty.

I said at the time the Penberthy incident was borderline, but that overall I didn't think Ealing could be too aggrieved given that they won the game and Jersey indiscipline was punished elsewhere by the 1-3 yellow card count, and penalty concession numbers of (approx) 8-15. There's also been a citing for a dangerous tackle by Zi Alexis just before HT - the hearing is tomorrow. I guess if he emerges with anything less than sine die you'll be complaining about that as well?
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I had a wonderful Christmas and thanks for asking . I am only reacting to the continuing `discussion` . It is only my opinion and I accept you saw it in a completely different light.

I said at the time that I thought the `tackle` by the Jersey prop should be looked at. I will have no joy in seeing him punished or not. For me Jersey were very successful in spoiling Ealing ball and I do feel strongly about the Aaron Penberthy incident. He stopped a certain TRy . 

I seem to recall Phil Chesters being carded  ( I thought it was a RED on reflection it was probably a YELLOW ) for deliberately knocking on during a supposed interception attempt. The incident was replayed several times on the big screen post match and clearly showed that he had tried two handed to catch the ball in an upward motion.

Is that the only citing to come out of the Ealing Trailfinders V Jersey Reds game ?.

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One Definition of Sine die from the Cambridge dictionary
for a period of time with no fixed end
So I suppose this could be interpreted as banned for life.

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