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    Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 18:50
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Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
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Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
 
Very interesting to see DMP view on Red Card situation from Saturday. "..prop..was straight red-carded for retaliation to being held down by an opposition lock, the retaliation being deemed to be to (sic) excessive"
 
Disappointing that inference was that the opposition lock started it and that the retaliation may not have been that bad! Holding a player defenceless on the ground and punching him upwards of 8 times (I've watched the video) would probably be classed as excessive in most people's books. A thug doing that on a Saturday night in town would be arrested imho.
 
Shame that DMP didn't have the cahonas to call him out but, hopefully, the citing committee will apply a suitable penalty ban.
 
There is no place on (or off!) the rugby pitch for this thuggish behaviour.
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Originally posted by Rucker57 Rucker57 wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
 
Very interesting to see DMP view on Red Card situation from Saturday. "..prop..was straight red-carded for retaliation to being held down by an opposition lock, the retaliation being deemed to be to (sic) excessive"
 
Disappointing that inference was that the opposition lock started it and that the retaliation may not have been that bad! Holding a player defenceless on the ground and punching him upwards of 8 times (I've watched the video) would probably be classed as excessive in most people's books. A thug doing that on a Saturday night in town would be arrested imho.
 
Shame that DMP didn't have the cahonas to call him out but, hopefully, the citing committee will apply a suitable penalty ban.
 
There is no place on (or off!) the rugby pitch for this thuggish behaviour.
I didn't see what happened because it was on the other side of the pitch from where I was sitting, and I haven't seen the video either. I also don't know whether that report was written before the video was available, so if it was based on a first view from some distance away and conversations with the players immediately after the game or several viewings of the video several days later. If it was the latter, then it's strange to try and excuse what, according to your description, should be unconditionally condemned.

By his reaction on the sideline, Danny Brown was distinctly unimpressed with what happened, and from your description of the reason for his dismissal, rightly so.
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Highlights (scoring plays) of the Mowden-Blackheath game are on the Mowden website.

http://www.mowdenpark.com/videos/highlights-dmp-v-blackheath-201819-139519.html
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Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by Rucker57 Rucker57 wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
 
Very interesting to see DMP view on Red Card situation from Saturday. "..prop..was straight red-carded for retaliation to being held down by an opposition lock, the retaliation being deemed to be to (sic) excessive"
 
Disappointing that inference was that the opposition lock started it and that the retaliation may not have been that bad! Holding a player defenceless on the ground and punching him upwards of 8 times (I've watched the video) would probably be classed as excessive in most people's books. A thug doing that on a Saturday night in town would be arrested imho.
 
Shame that DMP didn't have the cahonas to call him out but, hopefully, the citing committee will apply a suitable penalty ban.
 
There is no place on (or off!) the rugby pitch for this thuggish behaviour.
I didn't see what happened because it was on the other side of the pitch from where I was sitting, and I haven't seen the video either. I also don't know whether that report was written before the video was available, so if it was based on a first view from some distance away and conversations with the players immediately after the game or several viewings of the video several days later. If it was the latter, then it's strange to try and excuse what, according to your description, should be unconditionally condemned.

By his reaction on the sideline, Danny Brown was distinctly unimpressed with what happened, and from your description of the reason for his dismissal, rightly so.

Don't believe all that someone says is gospel Fake Shemp and try to account for what may have happened.

No citing committee involved as the player was sent off - straight red. Three week ban.

As for 'cahonas'. The lock who was on the receiving end had been punching players all day and having been punched, the DMP player wrongly retaliated to it and took his own action and was red carded accordingly.

As for the punches. The DMP player couldn't hit a barn door sitting on the handle. He may have registered with one, two max. Not the right response though, but those who live by the sword, die by it.

See what I mean Fake Shemp. 
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Originally posted by AuntyM AuntyM wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by Rucker57 Rucker57 wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
 
Very interesting to see DMP view on Red Card situation from Saturday. "..prop..was straight red-carded for retaliation to being held down by an opposition lock, the retaliation being deemed to be to (sic) excessive"
 
Disappointing that inference was that the opposition lock started it and that the retaliation may not have been that bad! Holding a player defenceless on the ground and punching him upwards of 8 times (I've watched the video) would probably be classed as excessive in most people's books. A thug doing that on a Saturday night in town would be arrested imho.
 
Shame that DMP didn't have the cahonas to call him out but, hopefully, the citing committee will apply a suitable penalty ban.
 
There is no place on (or off!) the rugby pitch for this thuggish behaviour.
I didn't see what happened because it was on the other side of the pitch from where I was sitting, and I haven't seen the video either. I also don't know whether that report was written before the video was available, so if it was based on a first view from some distance away and conversations with the players immediately after the game or several viewings of the video several days later. If it was the latter, then it's strange to try and excuse what, according to your description, should be unconditionally condemned.

By his reaction on the sideline, Danny Brown was distinctly unimpressed with what happened, and from your description of the reason for his dismissal, rightly so.

Don't believe all that someone says is gospel Fake Shemp and try to account for what may have happened.

No citing committee involved as the player was sent off - straight red. Three week ban.

As for 'cahonas'. The lock who was on the receiving end had been punching players all day and having been punched, the DMP player wrongly retaliated to it and took his own action and was red carded accordingly.

As for the punches. The DMP player couldn't hit a barn door sitting on the handle. He may have registered with one, two max. Not the right response though, but those who live by the sword, die by it.

See what I mean Fake Shemp. 
Although I've not been hit by of one of Darkintis' punches, I would imagine that someone who had been on the receiving end of eight of them would have been in absolutely no state to continue. I saw a bit of shopping and general 'handbags' but didn't see any punches thrown in that game, so will take your word for it about there being a triggering factor for the incident. 

As it was his first game back after missing one because his partner was giving birth, it's not the ideal way to respond to a recall, and he'll probably regret missing out on three weeks' pay when that money could come in very handy. Are you certain there will be no citation and further sanction? According to the RFU guidelines, a punch to the head is a medium range offence with a four week ban, so I'm assuming repeated punches would be a top end offence, which is a ban of eight+ weeks.
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I was at the game and have seen the video and match report and was shocked at the lieniency of the ban. It was not retaliation as the only punches thrown were by the prop the only action the lock could take was to try and cover up to prevent more hurt. The report by the AR puts his position about 8m away with an unobstructed view and saw nothing that started this incident. Although the player initially carried on he had to leave the field as a result of the attack and was unable to train and play this week and needs to be checked again for next week. So in effect we have been punished just as harshly. As far as I am aware the prop has not apologised for his actions.
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Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by AuntyM AuntyM wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by Rucker57 Rucker57 wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Mowden 24-29 Blackheath, as seen by the hosts
 
Very interesting to see DMP view on Red Card situation from Saturday. "..prop..was straight red-carded for retaliation to being held down by an opposition lock, the retaliation being deemed to be to (sic) excessive"
 
Disappointing that inference was that the opposition lock started it and that the retaliation may not have been that bad! Holding a player defenceless on the ground and punching him upwards of 8 times (I've watched the video) would probably be classed as excessive in most people's books. A thug doing that on a Saturday night in town would be arrested imho.
 
Shame that DMP didn't have the cahonas to call him out but, hopefully, the citing committee will apply a suitable penalty ban.
 
There is no place on (or off!) the rugby pitch for this thuggish behaviour.
I didn't see what happened because it was on the other side of the pitch from where I was sitting, and I haven't seen the video either. I also don't know whether that report was written before the video was available, so if it was based on a first view from some distance away and conversations with the players immediately after the game or several viewings of the video several days later. If it was the latter, then it's strange to try and excuse what, according to your description, should be unconditionally condemned.

By his reaction on the sideline, Danny Brown was distinctly unimpressed with what happened, and from your description of the reason for his dismissal, rightly so.

Don't believe all that someone says is gospel Fake Shemp and try to account for what may have happened.

No citing committee involved as the player was sent off - straight red. Three week ban.

As for 'cahonas'. The lock who was on the receiving end had been punching players all day and having been punched, the DMP player wrongly retaliated to it and took his own action and was red carded accordingly.

As for the punches. The DMP player couldn't hit a barn door sitting on the handle. He may have registered with one, two max. Not the right response though, but those who live by the sword, die by it.

See what I mean Fake Shemp. 
Although I've not been hit by of one of Darkintis' punches, I would imagine that someone who had been on the receiving end of eight of them would have been in absolutely no state to continue. I saw a bit of shopping and general 'handbags' but didn't see any punches thrown in that game, so will take your word for it about there being a triggering factor for the incident. 

As it was his first game back after missing one because his partner was giving birth, it's not the ideal way to respond to a recall, and he'll probably regret missing out on three weeks' pay when that money could come in very handy. Are you certain there will be no citation and further sanction? According to the RFU guidelines, a punch to the head is a medium range offence with a four week ban, so I'm assuming repeated punches would be a top end offence, which is a ban of eight+ weeks.

Think we'll leave it there Fake Shemp !
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