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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 08:56
There is no rugby club at YC, it is a team.   It will not go down the leagues, as Albert says. If the players want to be pro then they will need to find another pro club; otherwise it is National league rugby and a real job.

From what I understand, a big lump of money need re-paying in June. It all hinges on if they can persuade someone to give them the money. That person must be under no illusion that they will never get that investment back.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 09:09
I wonder if another club will look to acquire the academy? That must have some level of value.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 09:13
The academies are awarded at the discretion of the RFU.  There used to be a page on their website that showed the allocation county-by-county and club-by-club, but it was a bit too helpful for people who wanted to understand more about the ways in which the RFU fund the Premiership elite, so it was taken down.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Talking Flag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 09:33
So if YC disappear, Hartpury will remain in the Championship, regardless of where they finish?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 09:35
Originally posted by Talking Flag Talking Flag wrote:

So if YC disappear, Hartpury will remain in the Championship, regardless of where they finish?

And/or Richmond
(or technically, although improbably, any other team up to Coventry who ends up bottom).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fenboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 09:50
Albert, I never had any problem with Caddick ceasing his sponsorship. It was the immediate repayment of his 'loan' which I have a problem with. The timing was cruel, that money could have been used to properly finance immediate promotion back to the Prem.

For, however, BRB hits the nail on the head with his first sentence. The club atmosphere at Headingley was great in the early days, even after the first relegation from the Premiership. There was very much a 'We are all in it together' feeling. Remember the Tuesday night match when we defeated Quins or the 'Million Pound Game' against Worcester. But piece by piece that atmosphere became eroded. The closure and demolition of the supporters bar, the admission fee to enter the Long Room post match. The constant reminder that you were always second fiddle to the Rhinos. The battle to get in some decent beer. Maybe not a big deal to supporters who live in Leeds, but for those of us who lived outside the city and like to have a club like atmosphere of our own to meet up and chew the fat in the 'Headingley Experience' became less and less palatable.

As far as I am aware, there is an acceptable stadium within Leeds, The John Charles Centre, which could well accomodate Championship Rugby with fewer outgoings. Has this avenue been explored I wonder. Or is it too much of a 'Recreation Ground' pitch for some of the dwindling band of Carnegie followers? Get a club back, and you may get some decent support again. Just remember it ain't going to happen in the next five minutes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 10:31
fenboy - The home leg of the playoff  or promotion when we beat Newcastle Falcons, in wonderful sunshine, with a good crowd, superb atmosphere; that was also a wonderful taste of what could have been.   
My experiences this season, in the revamped stadium, have usually been dire; so bad that I will not return.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 10:49
Headingley is soul less ground when it's not full. I haven't been since the redevelopment because it is an expensive especially considering the quality of rugby that was on show.
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It is bleak.
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The ground or the situation?
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Headingley is soul less ground when it's not full. I haven't been since the redevelopment because it is an expensive especially considering the quality of rugby that was on show.
I agree with most of this except the view that it is expensive. There are obviously poor matches in dire weather but in my view Championship rugby is ridiculously cheap entertainment compared to the cost of seeing things like a music or comedy event or almost any other professional sporting match. There seems to be a view that rugby should be virtually free to watch and the grounds should sell beer at below the cost of pubs nearby. I'm sure it would be great if a mythical "someone else" with deep pockets should put money in so that we can criticise the team and moan that they haven't put in enough.  I enjoy watching rugby and imo supporters should properly pay a reasonable price for maintaining decent playing and ground standards. 
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Headingley is soul less ground when it's not full. I haven't been since the redevelopment because it is an expensive especially considering the quality of rugby that was on show.
I agree with most of this except the view that it is expensive. There are obviously poor matches in dire weather but in my view Championship rugby is ridiculously cheap entertainment compared to the cost of seeing things like a music or comedy event or almost any other professional sporting match. There seems to be a view that rugby should be virtually free to watch and the grounds should sell beer at below the cost of pubs nearby. I'm sure it would be great if a mythical "someone else" with deep pockets should put money in so that we can criticise the team and moan that they haven't put in enough.  I enjoy watching rugby and imo supporters should properly pay a reasonable price for maintaining decent playing and ground standards. 

It depends what you are comparing to. I don't think you can make a comparison to other forms of entertainment or sports, but you can compare to other teams in the same league. My comparison was based on the quality and enjoyment I get from the rugby and the craic - and these in recent years have been poor value at Headingley. I am almost given up watching at this level - the cost and enjoyment factors are better lower down the leagues. 
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Are you free to come to Donny for the Cov game on Easter Saturday?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 12:31
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Headingley is soul less ground when it's not full. I haven't been since the redevelopment because it is an expensive especially considering the quality of rugby that was on show.
I agree with most of this except the view that it is expensive. There are obviously poor matches in dire weather but in my view Championship rugby is ridiculously cheap entertainment compared to the cost of seeing things like a music or comedy event or almost any other professional sporting match. There seems to be a view that rugby should be virtually free to watch and the grounds should sell beer at below the cost of pubs nearby. I'm sure it would be great if a mythical "someone else" with deep pockets should put money in so that we can criticise the team and moan that they haven't put in enough.  I enjoy watching rugby and imo supporters should properly pay a reasonable price for maintaining decent playing and ground standards. 

It depends what you are comparing to. I don't think you can make a comparison to other forms of entertainment or sports, but you can compare to other teams in the same league. My comparison was based on the quality and enjoyment I get from the rugby and the craic - and these in recent years have been poor value at Headingley. I am almost given up watching at this level - the cost and enjoyment factors are better lower down the leagues. 
 
If you want astonishing value for money, try Rugby League. Trailfinder's tenants offered season tickets for £75 to locals!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 12:34
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

 
If you want astonishing value for money, try Rugby League. Trailfinder's tenants offered season tickets for £75 to locals!

Yes but I want entertainment too Tongue
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Awful for the players, staff, and supporters. My son went through it at Welsh and I know he really struggled with it as did many of the players who became disillusioned and left the professional game. Hope they all find some certainty soon.
One thing in their favour though where Welsh were looked upon as a bit of a problem child by the RFU Carnegie have often been mentioned as prospective members of an extended ring fenced premiership even when near the bottom of the Championship. Will be interesting to see how the RFU handle this as there is a precedent with both clubs run by a Micky Mouse board of directors. I suspect they will not be quite so keen to pull the plug in this case.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jed Eye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 15:02
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

 
If you want astonishing value for money, try Rugby League. Trailfinder's tenants offered season tickets for £75 to locals!

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Richard (and any other travelling Coventry support).

If it's entertainment you're  looking for, I am delighted to be able to invite you to the third and final Knights of the Roundy Tables Banquet for this season.  Any former attendee will attest to the splendid pre-match festivities on offer and I am prepared to guarantee that this one will not disappoint.

20th April, 12.30 sharp; 16 groats plus the cost of a terrace ticket will see you right.  And I'll wager the rugby will be enjoyable too.

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Originally posted by Jed Eye Jed Eye wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

 
If you want astonishing value for money, try Rugby League. Trailfinder's tenants offered season tickets for £75 to locals!

Yes but I want entertainment too Tongue

Richard (and any other travelling Coventry support).

If it's entertainment you're  looking for, I am delighted to be able to invite you to the third and final Knights of the Roundy Tables Banquet for this season.  Any former attendee will attest to the splendid pre-match festivities on offer and I am prepared to guarantee that this one will not disappoint.

20th April, 12.30 sharp; 16 groats plus the cost of a terrace ticket will see you right.  And I'll wager the rugby will be enjoyable too.

Sir Spicious of Orl
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I'm very happy to endorse this one. Pure python and as good an expression of rugby hospitality and fun as I've ever experienced. You will not regret doing it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ol' Blue Eyes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 02:14
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

It depends what you are comparing to. I don't think you can make a comparison to other forms of entertainment or sports, but you can compare to other teams in the same league. My comparison was based on the quality and enjoyment I get from the rugby and the craic - and these in recent years have been poor value at Headingley. I am almost given up watching at this level - the cost and enjoyment factors are better lower down the leagues. 

The answer to this and frankly almost all problems in life, is simply to become a Bedford fan. Family club, well-run, sticks within its means, great running rugby, decent beer, superb match day atmosphere. Job done.
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Bit of a schlepp from Leeds though.
That's easy for you to say.
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