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    Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 09:47
Two thirds of the season done and National 1 is giving some great entertainment!

Top 4 have broken away with Roth and Chinnor looking to have fallen away!
Club have had a Jan to forget losing 3 out of 4 games.
The question is who goes up?

At the bottom,wow, 7 points is the gap between the bottom 7 sides,with 10 left to play.
Who is for the drop? you can pretty much say 9th and upwards are now safe.
Caldy having topped the league at one stage look to be in rapid decline, with Stortford putting a few results together to battle their way out of it! We also have a couple of sides who have big brothers with an interest,will they cone to their rescue??


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My feeling it that LS have too much to do . . but other than that it is too close to call , but I could see Caldy getting into trouble and I think Esher might also go . ..  but anyone in bottom 7 is still in the mix.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Alderman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 14:24
Agree the winner will probably come from the current top four. Ampthill still have OEs and Rosslyn Park to come to Dillingham Park so may be a slight favourite for promotion. Blackheath have no further fixtures with their three rivals, so could come through the middle.

At the bottom I will say Caldy (with great regret) Esher and Sale.
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Rosslyn Park 547
Old Elthamians 522
Blackheath 488
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Ampthill 398
Rosslyn Park 466
Blackheath 406
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Ampthill 178
Old Elthamians 131
Rosslyn Park 81
Blackheath 82
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Anyone have an idea how the promotion winning team will do heading into the champ? I would presume these teams out of Ampthill OEs Blackheath and Rosslyn would need to recruit heavily?
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I think it is a little early to say the 3 relegation sides will come from the current bottom 7.

Cinderford, Plymouth and DMP could yet be involved if they have a bad run.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alderman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 15:30
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

I think it is a little early to say the 3 relegation sides will come from the current bottom 7.

Cinderford, Plymouth and DMP could yet be involved if they have a bad run.


True but of late all three have posted some impressive wins
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It is that tight it could go down to the final round of games.
Makes for entertainment but no good for the old ticker.
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What’s the form of those at the bottom?
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Ampthill to win it unfortunately for me as an OE. I just think the size of their pack and their momentum will undo us at theirs, we are still firing but to go their and win in a few weeks could be one step too far and if we do lose, its a double banker in points at the right time of the season. I dont see Rosslyn helping us with a win either!!

In terms of whos best equipped to go up, I think in terms of infrastructure Ampthill and Rosslyn are best equipped as OEs dont have the ground. Even if we go to Blackheaths old ground and go up, we'll be relocating to a new home ground and set up in the biggest year in their history, a tough start to championship life. 

If Im honest, I dont want to go up, I want to come a close second and let someone else go up, I love National 1 rugby, at least another year of it. Championship rugby is just not interesting to me personally. 
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Are there certain ground/facilities requirements to enter L2?
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Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

Are there certain ground/facilities requirements to enter L2?

A pitch, two sets of posts, and somewhere to hitch a horse.
It's what gives the Prem sides reason and right to sneer at us and constantly plan for ringfencing.

(Slight exaggeration, maybe).
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In the Championship regulations, there are a number of clauses that imply requirements, that are not directly stated. As an example, the home club has to make avaialble a certain number of seats in the best part of the stand, but there is no specific requirement for there to be a stand or seats.

The specific requirements are with regard to the pitch, the technical areas, and the separation of the pitch from the spectators. All the rest are implied.


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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

Are there certain ground/facilities requirements to enter L2?
A pitch, two sets of posts, and somewhere to hitch a horse.
It's what gives the Prem sides reason and right to sneer at us and constantly plan for ring fencing.

(Slight exaggeration, maybe).
 

Embarrassed says he whose club has a ground which makes those still in contention for promotion green with envy, like stands, lights, facilities, concessions, etc Hug 

unlike say Ampthill, where visiting spectators receive GPS co-ordinates and orienteering instructions so they can find the 1stXV pitch having left the clubhouse...  

Promoted sides get 12 months grace to meet any Championship ground requirements, should they ever be enforced...
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Ha. Last time I went to Ampthill I needed GPS coordinates just to get to the ground from the car park. At least the trek from the clubhouse to the pitch is aided by a semi-waymarked path through the fairy dell
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Ha. Last time I went to Ampthill I needed GPS coordinates just to get to the ground from the car park. At least the trek from the clubhouse to the pitch is aided by a semi-waymarked path through the fairy dell
 
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There are ground criteria for each of the divisions but it’s whether they are actually checked. We used to be checked regularly at Rectory Field but cannot remember having any inspections at Well Hall So that’s a few years since any have probably taken place.
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Hmmm. Apparently another area of the game where the administration hardly covers itself in glory then!

Many years ago weren't there regulations down to at least L3 regarding floodlights and when they had to be turned on and off? (Not necessarily when it was actually dark!) I remember being told that at Launceston after the lights came on during a bright afternoon. Of course, SSE might have been the league sponsors.

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Originally posted by RJV RJV wrote:

Ampthill to win it unfortunately for me as an OE. I just think the size of their pack and their momentum will undo us at theirs, we are still firing but to go their and win in a few weeks could be one step too far and if we do lose, its a double banker in points at the right time of the season. I dont see Rosslyn helping us with a win either!!

In terms of whos best equipped to go up, I think in terms of infrastructure Ampthill and Rosslyn are best equipped as OEs dont have the ground. Even if we go to Blackheaths old ground and go up, we'll be relocating to a new home ground and set up in the biggest year in their history, a tough start to championship life. 

If Im honest, I dont want to go up, I want to come a close second and let someone else go up, I love National 1 rugby, at least another year of it. Championship rugby is just not interesting to me personally. 


Agree with this. I know Championship is a stated aim for the OEs and I probably would attend League games but if the meaningless cup competition is perserved with I think attending Blackheath or Rosslyn would be more enjoyable.
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Level 3 requirements were covered by the £75k funding from the RFU e.g. seating and press area
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