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Originally posted by Lineoutboy Lineoutboy wrote:

Anyone have an idea how the promotion winning team will do heading into the champ? I would presume these teams out of Ampthill OEs Blackheath and Rosslyn would need to recruit heavily?


I can help with some history of how the promoted team has performed since level 2 became the Championship (in years marked * there were additional relegation PO games):

2010* - Bees - 12th Won 0 games out of 22
2011* - Esher - 9th W7
2012* - LS - 9th W6
2013 - Jersey - 11th W6
2014 - Ealing - 12th W5
2015 - Donny - 9th W8
2016 - Ealing - 11th W6
2017 - Richmond - 10th W5/20
2018 - Hartpury - 10th W6

So it is tough to get used to level 2, although the promoted side has always survived for at least one season, with the exception of Ealing in 13/14.

This season's new team, Cov, have W5 D1 out of 13 games and lie 8th, so they are on track to achieve the best finish by a promoted side


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 13:35
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

Are there certain ground/facilities requirements to enter L2?

A pitch, two sets of posts, and somewhere to hitch a horse.
It's what gives the Prem sides reason and right to sneer at us and constantly plan for ringfencing.

(Slight exaggeration, maybe).


Kimbo's assertion that ground requirements at level 2 aren't onerous is pretty accurate I'd say...

There are criteria - see section 5 'Grounds' in the doc below, but they aren't especially detailed/restrictive

https://www.englandrugby.com/mm/Document/General/General/01/33/10/14/ChampionshipRegulations2018-19_English.pdf
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 14:29
One thing we know is that whoever win Nat 1 this season will have one of the lowest points totals. 
They can only exceed the scores of Richmond with 116 and Jersey with 119.
Though both of those survived.
The scores were to some extent a measure of the other sides.
Jersey was pushed by Ealing and Blackheath, Richmond by Hartpury, Ampthill and Blackheath.

Obviously the 9th March game when Elthamians visit Ampthill is crucial. 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MCNRY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:04
With 5 games to go we have Ampthill in pole position after beating OEs over the weekend. Still twists I am sure with Park having a huge say in who goes up.
Down below it looks all decided but crunch games over the next few weeks with Esher having to play BM, Sale and Students. Cambridge arent safe either! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:25
Too true - though if the worrying rumours form Yorkshire prove correct we may have another side spared the drop.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 11:25
I think you’ll find this poster said Caldy down months ago
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 11:34
Don’t think YC are broke yet, just having to restructure their finances and buy in new cheaper team according to thread on Champ pages
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AuntyM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 12:05
Ampthill & District doing great, great result on Saturday, but may falter at Darlington Mowden Park in their next game.

Not the best of hunting grounds for them.


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Date            Cambs            BM                  Caldy              LS                   Esher

23-Mar        OE (A)            Esher (H)        Roth (A)          Black’th (H)     BM (A)

30-Mar        DMP (H)         PA (A)             OE (H)            Chinnor (A)     Sale (H)

06-Apr         RP (A)            Ampthill (H)     DMP (A)         Esher (H)        LS (A)

13-Apr         BM (H)           Cambs(A)       RP (H)            PA (A)             Chinnor (H)

 27-Apr         Sale (A)          Caldy (H)        BM (A)            Ampthill (H)     Black’th (A)

 

Cambridge (53) - (2 home, 3 Away) the trickiest run in IMHO, looking to score losing bonus points and win at least one. Suffering from lack of TBP during the season

B'ham Moseley (53) - (3 Home, 2 Away) on current form can look to win two if not three of their final games (Esher, Cambridge, Caldy). They control the relegation run in.

Caldy (52) - (2 home, 3 Away) Need to win at least two (if Cambridge win one) as Cambridge have higher number of wins

Loughborough (46) - (3 Home, 2 Away) need to take at least two @ 5 points to survive, Esher match takes on huge importance to avoid wooden spoon

Esher (43) - (2 home, 3 Away) need to win two plus LBP + TBP

27 April is looking to be important at both ends of the table

Prediction

B. Moseley    67

{ Cambridge   57 (position depends on number of wins)

{ Caldy           57

L'boro           53

Esher            46

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 14:13
Good post Foghorn, layingit out allows you to gauge it week by week. For me Caldy have the hardest run in and Esher have a chance to pick up 3 wins when they play the teams that are around them and Chinnor are mid table looking for next year and by the time they arrive at Blackheath it will probably be over.. the problem for most is that the top 4 are all still in it and will probably still be pushing until the last games just in case. I think BM will escape as they are putting a bit of a run together and have 3 games with teams around them 2 at home but who replaces them I wouldn’t like to guess. Brilliant season at both ends of the table which makes this league so compelling
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CJB1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 15:49
If Sale FC have a poor trot they could be dragged back into the mix.  They have Plymouth, Chinnor and Ampthill to face in addition to Esher and Cambridge, and are only 3 points ahead of Cambridge and Mose.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 16:03
I think it is fairly safe to say that Sale will be bolstered for the rest of the season
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Eddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 16:24
Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

I think it is fairly safe to say that Sale will be bolstered for the rest of the season

I think you may just be right Rabbie!
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Originally posted by AuntyM AuntyM wrote:

Ampthill & District doing great, great result on Saturday, but may falter at Darlington Mowden Park in their next game.

Not the best of hunting grounds for them.




Ampthill's Mark Lavery to comment on Radio about the prospect of playing in the Championship.

It must be all over and decided then. I must have missed that

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Caldy have a tough run in, I don't think Students have ever won away at Plymouth and Ampthill at home is a huge ask so........
Caldy, Students, Esher favourites to go down? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 15:53
Mose could open up a 4/5 point buffer if they beat Esher this weekend and depending on the results from Camb & Sale jump up a couple of places. It’s as tight at the bottom as it is at the top.
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

It’s as tight at the bottom as it is at the top.
As the actress said to the Bishop.
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Date             Cambs             BM                   Caldy               LS                    Esher

30-Mar          DMP (H)           PA (A)              OE (H)              Chinnor (A)       Sale (H)

06-Apr          RP (A)              Ampthill (H)       DMP (A)           Esher (H)          LS (A)

13-Apr          BM (H)              Cambs(A)         RP (H)              PA (A)              Chinnor (H)

 27-Apr           Sale (A)             Caldy (H)         BM (A)            Ampthill (H)        Black’th (A)

 

B'ham Moseley (58) - (2 Home, 2 Away) have taken one win with two further likely on current form (Cambridge, Caldy). They still control the relegation run in having both Cambridge and Caldy).

Cambridge (53) - (2 home, 2 Away) I thought the trickiest run in but see Caldy, looking to score losing bonus points and win at least one. Suffering from lack of TBP during the season

Caldy (52) - (2 home, 2 Away) An equally difficult run in as Cambridge, if not worse. Need to win at least two (if Cambridge win one) as Cambridge have higher number of wins

Loughborough (46) - (2 Home, 2 Away) still need to take at least two @ 5 points to survive, Esher match takes on huge importance to avoid wooden spoon

Esher (45) - (2 home, 2 Away) need to win two (LS, Sale) plus LBP + TBP

27 April is looking to be important at both ends of the table. Sale and Cinderford looking safer at the bottom, the top is anyone’s guess ……………..go Amps (if only to wind up The Championship!!) but Leicester Loughborough on 27th could be an issue

Prediction

B. Moseley    68

Cambridge    56

Caldy            55

L'boro           53

Esher            51



Edited by FHLH - 25 Mar 2019 at 11:42
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

but Leicester Loughborough on 27th could be an issue

Could 'Leicester' be relegated twice this season?
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