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Who is gong to win the World Cup - Event Date: 19 Sep 2019 - 24 Sep 2019

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They have a contingency plan.  2 points each and move onto the next game.  Som people do not like it now but it was always there in the rules.  No-one making a fuss until it had to be implemented, indeed some people were in favour.  Guess who said this when it looked like it would be Ireland v Samoa that was going to be cancelled?;

“The Ireland game cannot be postponed, it has to be played that day, if it cannot be played that day then it’s two points for each team.”
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Originally posted by donnyladinsheffield donnyladinsheffield wrote:

As silly as hosting a cricket world cup during an English summer.  Just look at how people are still talking about the cancelled group games and how that effected some teams qualification chances.  Completely overshadowed the final.Wink

Outdoor sports will fall prey to outdoor weather.


 
I think the Japanese people would be deeply insulted if you tried to compare and English Summer rainy day to 150 miles an hour winds , fatalities ,  power cuts and the closing of major airports ConfusedConfused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneagainstthehead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 2019 at 10:41
Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

Originally posted by donnyladinsheffield donnyladinsheffield wrote:

As silly as hosting a cricket world cup during an English summer.  Just look at how people are still talking about the cancelled group games and how that effected some teams qualification chances.  Completely overshadowed the final.Wink

Outdoor sports will fall prey to outdoor weather.


 
I think the Japanese people would be deeply insulted if you tried to compare and English Summer rainy day to 150 miles an hour winds , fatalities ,  power cuts and the closing of major airports ConfusedConfused

I don’t think any comparison is being drawn between the relevant weather events and their wider impact. The point being made is that weather affects sporting events and the impact can be disproportionate, but does not invalidate the competition as a whole. Whether there were adequate contingencies in place in Japan to ensure matches could be played is another issue.

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Thanks oneagainstthehead, exactly the point I was making. As well as the fact that the sporting impact was exactly the same this summer and it was quickly forgotten even as the tournament went on.

Whilst it is regrettable that Scotland might not have the chance to play but not unfair. Those were the rules and it is their relatively poorer performances against exactly the same three teams that Japan have played that will be the cause of their exit. A better sporting record will prevail.

I have every sympathy for those that have paid to go and won’t see a game and nothwithstanding my comment above has some sympathy with the Scotland team until they started the silly threat of legal action. The quote in my post above as most probably know was from Gregor Townsend. Didn’t see Scotland then suggesting there should be legal action to make sure the Ireland/Samoa game was played.

It will be interesting to see if Ireland lose without a bonus point whether Scotland will still be so keen to demand they get to play Japan.
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Well played Japan
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Well played Japan

Great for the game and now the next World Cup in USA
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Very impressed with Japan.
Superb defensively for the most part, and totally unwilling to be overwhelmed up front. And some none-too-shabby runners.
Ultimately good for international rugby.
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I liked the way they hung on to the ball, hate the endless pingpong you sometimes get.
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It's essential that tier two nations get more meaningful game time against those from tier one, it's the only way they will improve.

Fantastic result by Japan, thoroughly deserve to progress as winners of their pool. Fingers crossed they push on to the semis.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2019 at 13:23
Autumn internationals should include at least one nation on the up, I was at Murrayfield a couple of years back when Japan played, good crowd too. 
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It will be interesting to see how Japan get on against SA. I was impressed with their approach and execution last Sunday but did feel that Scotland let them into the game by failing to exploit J's weaknesses via the diagonal kick behind the defensive line and the high kick where J were at a disadvantage.

Am I the only person who thinks that Russell although exciting is rather too excitable to dictate play at this level?

Some interesting matches this weekend though.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Originally posted by geralltrugby geralltrugby wrote:

Bit pointless really. Aren’t England favourites to bring it home before any tournament? 😳


They have managed to bring it home in the past !. Not many can say that especially from the Northern Hemisphere.



List of final matches, and respective venues, finalists and scores
YearWinnersFinal scoreRunners-upVenueLocationAttendanceRef(s)
1987 New Zealand29–9 FranceEden ParkAuckland, New Zealand48,035[6]
1991 Australia12–6 EnglandTwickenhamLondon, England56,208[7][18]
1995 South Africa15–12dagger New ZealandEllis ParkJohannesburg, South Africa62,000[19][20]
1999 Australia35–12 FranceMillennium StadiumCardiff, Wales72,500[10][21]
2003 England20–17dagger[C] AustraliaTelstra StadiumSydney, Australia82,957[22]
2007 South Africa15–6 EnglandStade de FranceParis, France80,430[23]
2011 New Zealand8–7 FranceEden ParkAuckland, New Zealand61,079[5]
2015 New Zealand34–17 AustraliaTwickenhamLondon, England80,125[24][25]


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Donnyknightsfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2019 at 22:27
Now the World Cup really starts getting interesting. My predictions for the quarter finals:

England v Australia - England by 10. I think we should have enough here. As long as this game doesn’t become loose like the Scotland 2nd half in the 6 nations I think England will grind out a win. Probably not pretty from England but doesn’t need to be.

New Zealand v Ireland - NZ by 10. Same as above but the opposite, Ireland have to make this a forward battle and win the collisions. If they don’t then the All Blacks will just rip them to pieces out wide. I think Ireland will get close but NZ’s ability to make the most out of relatively few chances will be the difference.

Wales v France - Wales by 9. I think France are woeful. They just seem to have no direction in their game at all. They’ll probably score a couple of tries through great individual skill but I think Wales will capitalise on France’s tendancy to give away soft penalties. France to lead at HT but Wales to dominate the 2nd half.

Japan v South Africa - SA by 17. As much as I’ve loved watching Japan at this World Cup I’d be surprised if they beat the Springboks. I think SA will dominate up front and will slowly turn the screw and deny Japan possession and territory. I think Japan will start quickly but SA’’s superior power and strength off the bench to tell.

Hopefully they’ll be an upset or two. Tie of the weekend for me is potentially NZ/Ireland.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2019 at 09:48
New Zealand 4 finals three wins.

Australia 4 finals two wins.

South Africa two finals two wins.

England three finals one win.

France three finals no wins


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