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    Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 20:14
Thought I would start a new thread on this subject. The previous 2016/17 thread went on a bit.
I cannot find the 'Competitions' section on the YRFU web-site. Can anyone help?

Apart from that, we have received the Yorks Cup schedule for season 2018/19 and it looks like the YRFU Competitions Secretary has again played a blinder and again, failed to listen to anyone.
On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield. League matches which I expect are already sponsored.
Brilliant! And they want us to take this competition seriously!
The 1st round matches are to be played on 10th November when funnily enough, said three N2N Clubs have no match scheduled and, neither do their Yorks Cup opposition.
This is why the Yorks Cup is a complete joke and, it will not change until we are rid of the obstinate 'flat cap' York's committee.
Wake up!


Edited by Sid James - 19 Aug 2018 at 20:18
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Evening Sid.

As one from the other side of the hill please excuse me for my input.

It strikes me that the YRFU have  a couple of options to get round this problem. They could get the fixtures out earlier and play the Preliminary round on the August bank holiday (not ideal) or seed all the NCA clubs into the first round proper.

However, it appears that over the years the 'flat cap' committee do nothing to help the senior clubs within their remit and I would be tempted to tell them to stick their 'Owd Tin Pot' where the sun doesn't shine.
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

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On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield.

And Wharfedale have a home "derby" v Hoppers
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This is the link

http://yorkshirerfu.pitchero.com/news/yorkshire-competitions-draw-2018-2019-23572/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alfred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 15:44
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Thought I would start a new thread on this subject. The previous 2016/17 thread went on a bit.
I cannot find the 'Competitions' section on the YRFU web-site. Can anyone help?

Apart from that, we have received the Yorks Cup schedule for season 2018/19 and it looks like the YRFU Competitions Secretary has again played a blinder and again, failed to listen to anyone.
On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield. League matches which I expect are already sponsored.
Brilliant! And they want us to take this competition seriously!
The 1st round matches are to be played on 10th November when funnily enough, said three N2N Clubs have no match scheduled and, neither do their Yorks Cup opposition.
This is why the Yorks Cup is a complete joke and, it will not change until we are rid of the obstinate 'flat cap' York's committee.
Wake up!


Sid - I would point out that the schedule was put on the YRFU's web-site more than a month ago and that the preliminary round matches are to be on OR BEFORE 6 October (i.e. they could therefore be played in August).
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Originally posted by Alfred Alfred wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Thought I would start a new thread on this subject. The previous 2016/17 thread went on a bit.
I cannot find the 'Competitions' section on the YRFU web-site. Can anyone help?

Apart from that, we have received the Yorks Cup schedule for season 2018/19 and it looks like the YRFU Competitions Secretary has again played a blinder and again, failed to listen to anyone.
On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield. League matches which I expect are already sponsored.
Brilliant! And they want us to take this competition seriously!
The 1st round matches are to be played on 10th November when funnily enough, said three N2N Clubs have no match scheduled and, neither do their Yorks Cup opposition.
This is why the Yorks Cup is a complete joke and, it will not change until we are rid of the obstinate 'flat cap' York's committee.
Wake up!


Sid - I would point out that the schedule was put on the YRFU's web-site more than a month ago and that the preliminary round matches are to be on OR BEFORE 6 October (i.e. they could therefore be played in August).

Indeed Alfred and many are in fact playing them this weekend I believe, using them as a good pre season run out?

Enjoy the season folks
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

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On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield.


And Wharfedale have a home "derby" v Hoppers


I thought Wharefdale play Pocklington in Yorks Cup 1st round on 10th November, when Dale do not have a league match?

Also, on or before 6th October leaves only August and both Clubs need to be free and agree. Surely the more sensible route is to schedule the Prelim. Round matches for 10th Nov when everyone is free.

Who is playing York's Cup this weekend?
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Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Originally posted by Alfred Alfred wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Thought I would start a new thread on this subject. The previous 2016/17 thread went on a bit.
I cannot find the 'Competitions' section on the YRFU web-site. Can anyone help?

Apart from that, we have received the Yorks Cup schedule for season 2018/19 and it looks like the YRFU Competitions Secretary has again played a blinder and again, failed to listen to anyone.
On 06/10/2018 three N2N clubs are expected to play Preliminary round York's Cup matches despite having important N2N league games that day - Hull I's are home to Stourbridge, Huddersfield are away at Sheff Tigers and Otley are away at Macclesfield. League matches which I expect are already sponsored.
Brilliant! And they want us to take this competition seriously!
The 1st round matches are to be played on 10th November when funnily enough, said three N2N Clubs have no match scheduled and, neither do their Yorks Cup opposition.
This is why the Yorks Cup is a complete joke and, it will not change until we are rid of the obstinate 'flat cap' York's committee.
Wake up!


Sid - I would point out that the schedule was put on the YRFU's web-site more than a month ago and that the preliminary round matches are to be on OR BEFORE 6 October (i.e. they could therefore be played in August).


Indeed Alfred and many are in fact playing them this weekend I believe, using them as a good pre season run out?

Enjoy the season folks


Elijah,
That is not the case.
As far as I can see there are no York's Cup Preliminary round or 1st round matches being played this weekend. None are planned in August according to the home club web-sites.
The Malton v Donny Phoenix match is a PSF with four 20mins sessions using as many players as possible, or so the web-site says.


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The non-national league holders give Sheffield a walk-over on a non-league match weekend. Poor show.
But, I suppose that is all you can do when you are concentrating on promotion and you are a Club that only runs one team.
Makes the competition even more of a mockery.

Good to see Sheff Tigers turning out and winning. Thats what happens when the YRFU give the National league clubs a chance to play on a non-league weekend.

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Sid, with only six teams playing out of the sixteen involved in the competition I am very surprised that you have restricted your comments to only three teams. Obviously you have also managed to get a little jibe in at the YRFU. Poor show. 
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Originally posted by Ayup Ayup wrote:

Sid, with only six teams playing out of the sixteen involved in the competition I am very surprised that you have restricted your comments to only three teams. Obviously you have also managed to get a little jibe in at the YRFU. Poor show. 


Sorry but you are wrong. Nine clubs have taken part and fulfilled YCup fixtures so far this season,

The 'jibe' at YRFU, as you put it is quite intentional. They are the primary reason for the 'poor show'. The YRFU's lack of understanding with regard to the importance of fulfiling National League fixtures is quite ridiculous.

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Don't be sorry, I understand that six teams played out of the sixteen involved in Round One. 
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Originally posted by Ayup Ayup wrote:

Don't be sorry, I understand that six teams played out of the sixteen involved in Round One. 


You are forgetting the Preliminary Round where YRFU asked National League Clubs to play on a League match weekend.
It's all on the YRFU web-site.
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

The non-national league holders give Sheffield a walk-over on a non-league match weekend. Poor show.
But, I suppose that is all you can do when you are concentrating on promotion and you are a Club that only runs one team.
Makes the competition even more of a mockery.

Good to see Sheff Tigers turning out and winning. Thats what happens when the YRFU give the National league clubs a chance to play on a non-league weekend.


This reference is to round one - not the preliminaries so I am not forgetting anything Sid that is why I only referred to the teams in round one.
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No probs Ayup,
If you prefer to not consider the competition as a whole, that's fine by me. However, to do so is in my opinion, pointless.

Am I exchanging views with someone of some knowledge of the subject? I ask as your pseudonym suggests you may be on the YRFU Committee.
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[QUOTE=Ayup][QUOTE=Sid James]The non-national league holders give Sheffield a walk-over on a non-league match weekend. Poor show.
But, I suppose that is all you can do when you are concentrating on promotion and you are a Club that only runs one team.
Makes the competition even more of a mockery.

Just picked up on this posting.
Last season you were applauding Sheffield Tigers for withdrawing from the Yorkshire Cup FINAL as they had an important game which would affect their chances of escaping relegation if they won. Which makes a mockery of your first sentence.
Double standards or what? Or just another chance to have a dig at the 'non-national league holders'.
Poor show.
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Originally posted by Yogi Yogi wrote:

[QUOTE=Ayup][QUOTE=Sid James]The non-national league holders give Sheffield a walk-over on a non-league match weekend. Poor show.
But, I suppose that is all you can do when you are concentrating on promotion and you are a Club that only runs one team.
Makes the competition even more of a mockery.

Just picked up on this posting.
Last season you were applauding Sheffield Tigers for withdrawing from the Yorkshire Cup FINAL as they had an important game which would affect their chances of escaping relegation if they won. Which makes a mockery of your first sentence.
Double standards or what? Or just another chance to have a dig at the 'non-national league holders'.
Poor show.


You missed the point but what's new. I dont think Sheffield Tigers were the Cup holders were they?
I also remember that Sheff Tigers offered alternative dates to play the final but the York's Cup Committee said no. Hence my support for Sheff Tigers decision.
Sheff Tigers had the last laugh by staying in N2N and they are still in the competition this season.
In recent years the YRFU have made it as difficult as possible for a National League Club to win the Yorks Cup, so I wish the remaining National League Clubs the best of luck this year.

Anyway, why didn't you send an AXV to Sheffield and fulfil the fixture?

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Of the four quarter finals this weekend 2 are walk overs and Wharfedale are playing their 2nd team against Cleckheaton
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Of the four quarter finals this weekend 2 are walk overs and Wharfedale are playing their 2nd team against Cleckheaton
Here we go again


I would point out that the Wharfedale 1st team is unable to play in this round of the Yorkshire cup since they have a re-scheduled league match away at Huddersfield that day - that game having been postponed from earlier in the season due to the inclement weather conditions.

The choice was therefore either to pull out of the Cup competition or field the 2nd XV. The club, quite rightly in my opinion, chose the second option.
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First class decision by Wharfedale. I was surprised Sheffield Tigers did not
do likewise against Sandal.
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